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I need CITES documents, how do you get it?

Let's say I want to buy a PW braz guitar in Japan.Who do I contact, how do I go about getting the proper documentation to get it home?Mark...

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Quote:Does anyone here actually know anyone who's had a guitar seized due to missing cites papers?You seem to be missing the point. ~ Herb--D-15 | HD-28V | 00-18VS UMGF Custom, #15 | 000-42 1935...

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Quote:Does anyone here actually know anyone who's had a guitar seized due to missing cites papers?I think the object is to avoid knowing anyone who had a guitar seized due to missing Cites papers. It...

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What point am I missing,Herb? I want to hear from someone who's actually gone through this. What happened, how were you notified, what did the customs officials say, was the guitar retrieved/destroyed...

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Quote:That little reference card - "Dating your Martin Guitar." Wouldn't that be easy..... and sensible....Oh yeah! THAT's internationally recognized documentation! I recognize what you are trying to...

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Re: I need CITES documents, how do you get it?

"What point am I missing,Herb? I want to hear from someone who's actually gone through this. What happened, how were you notified, what did the customs officials say, was the guitar...

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Quote:I recognize what you are trying to say, but a little card printed by a small manufacturer hardly constitutes documentation to the Convention on International Trade in Endangered...

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I left the US for Ireland for the summer back on June 9. In April, I explored getting CITES documentation for one of my vintage guitars, but couldn't manage it in the the 60, or so, days I had before...

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I wonder if we can ever get to the point that a musician could pro-actively demonstrate to the authorities in his country that his guitars were completely in compliance with all CITES regulations, and...

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I find it interesting that there isnt some company that handles things like this. You know, someone pays them to handle the paperwork and logistics once a purchase has been made. A Third Party per se.

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Quote:without CITES documents, even if the materials, however small, in the guitar are restricted, though pre-ban, there is no process for getting the instrument back ... ever. No compensation,...

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``That little reference card - "Dating your Martin Guitar." Wouldn't that be easy..... and sensible....''Together with the instrument serial number, which is stamped on the instrument, how else could...

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Quote:While a 1970s Martin will, after testing, be proved not to contain Brazilian or ivory,Actually, a significant number of early-1970's Martins do contain ivory, particularly the D-41's and D-45's....

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Quote:Actually, a significant number of early-1970's Martins do contain ivory, particularly the D-41's and D-45's. And there are a few BR Martins made in 1970, including three D-28's I have seen. Fair...

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A "passport" for each guitar is what I've been missing. It's bad enough that it's practically impossible for the little guy to get a CITES certificate, but he needs to get a new one EVERY time he...

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Quote:But my guess is that if it is clearly a Martin and the stamped serial number predates the various cut-off dates for these materials (this may take some homework which should be straightforward),...

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Quote:ANY guitar that looks like it may be Brazillian rosewood, or have ivory parts COULD be seized until such time it was proven NOT to have prohibited materials.It would be placed on "Hold" and not...

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Quote:Maybe a passport for your instrument? With photos, D.O.B, vital statistics. An official document that was permanent for the life of the guitar, allowing it to be carried from country to country,...

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OK, I have read Gruhns article and I think I have digested the meat of this thread correctly.My Brazilian 1994 Henderson with Ivory trim cannot leave this country on a trip or be sold out of the...

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Quote:Is this the correct assumption based on the information presented?Yes. AndyD-42 Custom 12-FretOM-42 Custom 'burst/adi00-42 style UMGF #37 AmberburstD-18 (1939)D-18 (1945) 000-18 (1945), 000-21...

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I have obtained a letter from Martin for my OM-28GE that should be helpful when the time come to obtain the doco.Happy Trails1926 0 Uke; 1954 0-15; 1966 00-21; 1975 0-16NY; 1993 HD-28; 1999...

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